after effects demo where to buy adobe premiere pro cs3 windows 2008 enterprise download download corel video studio 12 buy indesign cs4 corel draw x4 full download buy flash cs3 buy photoshop lightroom 2 adobe illustrator cs4 cheap adobe cs4 production premium download buy windows 7 home premium family pack autocad electrical 2010 trial buy windows vista 32 bit streets and trips 2010 cost zonealarm antivirus 8 system requirements microsoft office 2003 best price lightroom cheapest adobe captivate student discount microsoft works 9 download buy adobe premiere 6.5 download microsoft office 2003 professional edition buy photoshop cs3 extended turbotax 2008 discount microsoft office enterprise 2007 buy buy windows 7 oem cheap buy turbotax deluxe corel photoimpact download buy windows 2008 server adobe indesign cheap buy windows xp license adobe premiere elements 8 buy buy windows 7 pro oem cs3 master collection trial adobe contribute cs4 download pcanywhere pricing buy adobe premiere pro cs3 adobe acrobat cheap buy visio 2003 download adobe premiere elements 8 price buy windows 7 license key buy windows 7 home full buy windows 7 professional 64 bit buy mappoint 2006 download microsoft digital image suite 2006 download microsoft money 2007 deluxe buy office enterprise buy microsoft windows 7 professional microsoft word 2007 product key photoshop elements download autodesk inventor lt download buy microsoft money 2009 buy windows vista home premium 32 bit nuendo 3 download buy norton ghost 2003 cheap autocad electrical 2010 buy windows 2008 standard cheap windows 7 ultimate retail adobe contribute review buy 3ds max 2010 cheap download cubase 5 full download windows vista home premium windows 2003 datacenter download buy lightroom 1 buy adobe flash player 10 windows 7 ultimate 64 bit best price buy illustrator cs2 buy microsoft office project server 2007 turbo tax best price cheap windows 7 ultimate key download frontpage express buy sql server 2008 download adobe after effects cs3 norton 360 deals cheap windows vista business buy windows xp product key online buy microsoft frontpage download adobe cs4 design premium for mac mappoint 2006 download buy autodesk maya online buy cs3 adobe cs4 web premium price buy outlook 2007 only adobe production premium mac wordperfect x4 oem inventor professional 2008 download buy ms office 2010 cs4 master collection download autocad electrical sales purchase photoshop for mac windows 7 pro cheapest buy adobe cs4 mac download 3ds max 2010 buy corel painter x windows 7 professional cost buy windows xp download buy mappoint 2010 buy windows 7 digital download windows 7 home premium cost windows 7 ultimate licensing how to buy windows 7 64 bit buy office 2003 download purchase maya 2009 buy onenote 2003 adobe pagemaker price buy windows 7 half price illustrator download cs3 buy microsoft office for mac cheap buy vista business purchase photoshop elements windows 7 professional price uk cs3 design premium trial adobe production premium cs4 price buy photoshop elements maya pricing 2009 autocad inventor professional 2009 download adobe illustrator mac buy illustrator cs4 buy microsoft project 2007 professional download adobe illustrator cs4 purchase microsoft excel windows 7 professional 64 bit download download adobe framemaker 9 buy photoshop cs4 extended cheap norton 360 download adobe fireworks price microsoft expression pricing microsoft expression studio price steinberg nuendo 4 price buy windows vista 64 bit buy turbotax 2009 premier cheapest windows 7 home premium full version buy vista home premium 64 bit buy windows 7 pro 64 purchase photoshop cs3 for mac buy autocad 2010 lt windows xp best price cheap adobe cs4 master collection after effects for mac price autosketch 9 download autocad electrical 2010 torrent buy captivate 3 norton 360 buy download buy autocad 2007 windows 7 pro 64 bit download cheap flash cs3 windows 2003 datacenter licensing buy microsoft access 2003 download download autodesk lustre cheap photoshop elements 8 buy norton 360 cheap buy microsoft expressions download adobe soundbooth cs4 windows 7 cost too much microsoft frontpage sale buy windows 7 oem online buy adobe master collection cs4 quicken rental property manager download autocad electrical 2008 download contribute cs4 download cubase 4 download buy windows 7 ultimate x64 buy windows 7 home premium cheap 3ds max 2009 download buy windows 7 licence quicken rental property manager 2010 download cheap adobe photoshop autodesk maya 2009 buy adobe indesign download buy windows 7 license online buy wavelab pcanywhere buy download windows 7 ultimate 64 bit quickbooks enterprise download microsoft office 2003 license price buy windows 2008 server r2 how to buy adobe presenter buy microsoft visio 2003 windows 2008 web server edition autodesk mudbox best price buy windows 7 discount buy turbotax deluxe 2009 corel draw x4 price buy ms word 2007 excel 2003 price buy corel photoimpact x3 powerpoint cheap buy adobe photoshop elements download photoshop elements 6 cs4 production premium for mac acrobat pricing adobe premiere pro cs3 torrent purchase windows 7 activation key buy production premium cs4 adobe indesign cs4 download quicken home & business 2010 download buy adobe acrobat 9 professional corel photoimpact x3 activation code autodesk 3ds max 2010 torrent windows 2003 datacenter edition download architecture software adobe flash cs4 for mac buy acrobat 9 buy adobe premiere pro 2.0 adobe cs4 web premium download buy adobe dreamweaver cs3 buy adobe illustrator buy visio 2000 buy access 2003 software download adobe captivate 4 autocad 3ds max 2010 buy autocad architecture 2008 windows vista home basic 32 bit product key buy symantec ghost dreamweaver mac oem download windows 2008 standard cheap vista oem buy microsoft sql server 2008 buy sql server 2008 developer edition buy photoshop elements 7 cheap microsoft autoroute 2007 download adobe font folio price windows 7 64 bit oem price steinberg cubase 4 download microsoft frontpage price buy quicken rental property manager buy microsoft vista online adobe premiere pro download photoshop elements 8 purchase corel dvd moviefactory 7 pro adobe photoshop elements 8 purchase autocad 3ds max 2009 buy ms project 2007 cheap autocad 2009 software buy visual studio 2008 professional edition buy dreamweaver cheap buy acrobat 7 adobe photoshop cs3 sale autodesk autocad architecture 2010 download cheapest microsoft office 2003 purchase windows 7 oem cheap windows 7 home premium buy windows 2008 server online buy autodesk 3ds max design buy adobe photoshop for mac buy microsoft office 2003 download where to buy quicken 2010 maya pricing expression studio price lightroom cost buy microsoft encarta buy quicken software windows 7 ultimate best price windows 7 home premium 32 bit oem buy ms office 2003 buy autocad 2008 download microsoft works 9 buy access 2003 online purchase corel draw autodesk inventor lt 2010 price microsoft office 2003 download full version buy maya 2009 unlimited visio 2007 pricing cheap adobe illustrator cs4 buy windows xp sp3 professional buy photoshop cs4 student symantec pcanywhere download adobe after effects trial ms streets and trips 2010 download purchase vista operating system windows vista home basic 64 bit oem cheap adobe photoshop cs3 buy mappoint 2009 windows 7 home premium sale buy corel draw x4 buy corel draw 12 autocad architecture oem windows 7 pricing oem microsoft office 2003 license key buy indesign cs2 download corel painter x mac norton 360 price comparison buy office 2003 online buy windows xp cheap ms money 2007 deluxe buy visual studio 2008 license windows vista 64 bit sale adobe captivate pricing buy streets & trips 2010 windows vista ultimate price inventor professional suite 2010 buy windows 7 ultimate quickbooks enterprise cheap windows vista business 64 bit sp2 windows 7 ultimate buy online windows xp cheap download download microsoft expression studio 3 streets and trips 2010 price buy microsoft office project 2003 corel draw 14 mac autocad 2010 pricing windows datacenter licensing buy ms excel 2003 corel dvd moviefactory 7 download autocad 2010 download buy vista ultimate oem buy sql server 2008 web edition windows 7 64 bit download buy autodesk inventor cheap adobe illustrator cs2 buy adobe illustrator for mac corel draw cost adobe dreamweaver for mac download download norton ghost 12.0 windows datacenter price adobe presenter 7 buy purchase windows xp sp2 buy pcanywhere 12.5 where can i buy powerpoint 2003 buy windows vista pro buy maya 2008 adobe captivate 4 download cheap cubase 5 purchase vista ultimate buy turbotax 2007 microsoft windows vista home premium with sp2 (32 bit) cheap norton 360 v3 adobe acrobat 9 oem purchase microsoft office for mac purchase adobe captivate 3 buy windows 7 ultimate cd key microsoft office 2003 full download download autocad mechanical 2010 purchase windows xp service pack 2 autodesk 3ds max 2010 trial parallels desktop 4.0 for mac system requirements adobe illustrator cs4 sale vista 64 sp2 adobe cs4 design premium mac full version buy adobe illustrator cs3 cheap corel painter 11 for mac microsoft office enterprise 2007 download microsoft word 2007 price download microsoft streets and trips 2008 download autocad electrical 2010 corel draw 11 mac download buy adobe photoshop cs3 cheap quicken 2010 windows 7 pro 64 bit oem where to buy ms office 2003 mappoint 2009 europe buy buy 3ds max cheap dreamweaver for cheap purchase norton 360 buy microsoft money 2005 microsoft visio 2007 download buy windows 2003 license download adobe creative suite 4 web premium buy microsoft powerpoint 2007 framemaker price ms works download purchase cubase 5 buy visio 2003 buy 3ds max 2009 navisworks manage price buy microsoft office enterprise 2007 windows xp buy cheap autocad architecture pricing purchase microsoft office 2003 download download autodesk inventor lt buy adobe fireworks cs4 office 2003 for sale buy windows 7 digitally buy adobe dreamweaver cs4 download adobe dreamweaver cs3 adobe cs4 design premium mac download buy wavelab 6 windows vista home basic trial download font folio 11 download adobe font folio 11 buy office enterprise 2007 64 bit windows 7 oem windows 7 ultimate best buy adobe cs3 design premium download adobe after effects demo windows 7 professional sale steinberg nuendo 3 download windows 7 ultimate 64 bit oem adobe cs4 mac price microsoft expression download windows vista home basic 32 bit oem buy vista get windows 7 buy adobe flash for mac mappoint 2009 european buy windows vista cheap cheapest windows 7 family pack buy microsoft frontpage 2002 microsoft mappoint north america 2009 download adobe after effects cs3 download purchase visual studio 2008 professional purchase windows 7 64 bit buy autoroute quickbooks enterprise discount autodesk autocad price buy cubase 5 studio microsoft word 2007 download full version windows 7 home premium 64 bit download buy microsoft office 2003 pro buy autocad architecture 2009 inventor suite 2010 buy maya 2009 adobe flash price cheap photoshop cs3 adobe indesign download cs3 windows 7 professional oem download price of windows 7 professional buy corel draw 10 buy adobe indesign cs2 buy microsoft office 2003 online download adobe flash cs4 professional mac download microsoft expression web 3 buy norton 360 license autodesk lustre 2010 price buy 3ds max 9 office 2003 download full version buy windows 7 home download indesign for mac buy adobe photoshop cs3 extended buy windows 7 license buy cs4 web premium windows vista sales indesign for mac adobe flash pricing corel draw prices windows vista best price cheap photoshop download adobe contribute cs4 for mac buy lightroom software cheap photoshop cs quickbooks enterprise pricing buy microsoft powerpoint adobe photoshop cs3 discount windows 7 buy product key should i buy windows 7 64 bit buy word 2003 download buy windows 7 professional 64 bit oem download after effects cs3 buy wordperfect 11 powerpoint price download after effects cs4 download microsoft powerpoint 2003 buy maya software

My Kind Of Feminist

by Mrs. Chicken on June 2, 2008

Over the years, I’ve had many female bosses. Some, like Carolina, were amazing.

Carolina ran the fledgling internet marketing division at the Huge Multinational Corporation I worked for. She was just a few years older than me, which put her somewhere around, oh, 31. She was 31 years old, and she had seven of us working for her.

She left the company about two years into my tenure with her, after making sure I got significant raises and recognition. She believed in me.

Sadly, and correctly, she didn’t believe in the company’s vision. She left and became a major bigwig at Whirlpool, offering me the chance to work for her any time I wanted.

Enter Susanne. Susanne, of the neck scarf and the seminar on doing your “colors.” Susanne who milked my status of daughter of a head honcho for all it was worth. Susanne, who repeatedly re-did work I’d slaved over for her.

Susanne, who told me that I would get farther in the company if only I would stop wearing casual pants and apply more make-up.

After Susanne came Denise, delightful Denise, The Earth Mother. A psychologist by trade, she spent her days with piles and piles of tiny, incomprehensible numbers. I’m not sure what they were thinking, transferring me to her. She was warm and witty and supportive of both my family obligations (dying father, fraying mother) and my burgeoning pregnancy.

It was Denise who agreed to let me telecommute two days a week, minimizing the number of hours The Poo would have to spend in someone else’s care.

After my father died, I was granted a respectful and generous bereavement leave. That’s what happens when your late father was one of the inner circle of high-ranking execs, not to mention a very beloved one. My boss’ boss, Peter, called and left me a message the day my dad died, less than an hour after it happened.

After two months, I went back to work.

I found Denise’s office cleaned out, and a new boss on the way.

A new male boss.

Things went on as they do, at these big companies. I finished my work in two hours and spent the rest of the week sneaking out for burritos and surfing the ‘net. Soon enough, it was time to deliver The Poo.

After my maternity leave, I went back to the office with the understanding that I would be working from home Thursday and Friday.

My new boss? The man?

He said no. Two months later, I quit.

That is just one of the many, many reasons that Andi’s post, The Illusion Of Choice, struck me.

Andi is the author of Poot and Cubby, and she is one of my favorite reads. She doesn’t post all the time, but each one is worth the wait. “The Illusion of Choice” was one such gem.

In it, Andi speaks about her return to work and how so many people use the word “choice” to describe her decision. How in reality, mothers working in the home, out of the home or just being home and raising children truly have no “choice.”

I wrote something last year that spoke to this matter, about how no matter what, I am always The Mommy. I never get to be Not The Mommy. No one asks my husband if he regrets going back to work. No one asks my husband why he quit his job to pursue his dream. No one asks my husband why there are no clean socks in the drawer.

Andi is so honest and so clear in her argument that no woman really has a choice that I added one more reason to the list of reasons why I love her so much.

Andi is my kind of feminist. The kind who realizes that the logic behind feminism is flawed.

My take on this particular -ism is that no matter what, we are always women. We cannot escape our gender. We will never be men, and frankly, I don’t want to be a man. I enjoy being a woman.

What I want is a real choice, a society that supports whatever decision I make, a society that does not cast judgment on the way I choose to parent, as long as my children are safe, healthy and thriving.

Like Andi’s kids are. Safe, thriving and healthy. While Andi is at work. While Andi is enjoying her work.

That is why I nominated Andi’s post, “The Illusion of Choice,” for a May Perfect Post Award. Go and read it, now. And let’s stop accusing each other of making bad choices, and band together instead.

Andi, bravo.

***

Go here and here for more Perfect Posts.

{ 1 trackback }

How you doin’? « Poot and Cubby
June 4, 2008 at 9:02 am

{ 12 comments… read them below or add one }

Steph June 2, 2008 at 11:53 am

I have had female bosses and they have all sucked don’t get me wrong I have had male bosses that sucked as well but a few of the males have ben great and respect me as a worker and a mom. With my current boss I couldn’t be happier

Heather June 2, 2008 at 12:27 pm

Someone asked me over the weekend if I was happy with my “choice” to go back to work. I said, “what choice? I HAD to go back to work.” Sigh.

Rayne of Terror June 2, 2008 at 1:06 pm

That is a great post by Andi, though I was pretty sure Canadians didn’t have these sorts of problems. I thought Canada was practically perfect for parenting.

amanda June 2, 2008 at 2:45 pm

Brilliant choice…the line about there not being a “working dad” has stayed with me.

Jason June 2, 2008 at 3:27 pm

It’s still a choice. You really think that there are no parents who choose to stay at home despite financial reasons to do otherwise? Now it tends to be easier to go back to work. The “in” choice now is to stay at home. I think that things are shifting in part because more younger people (now having kids) grew up with working parents. Just because you feel guilty about it doesn’t mean you don’t have a choice. Do what’s right for you, not what makes everyone else happy.

Mrs. Chicken June 2, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Hi Jason,

I actually DID choose to stay home despite financial considerations, and that, too, was judged. I think women judge women more harshly than others might.

I left a very lucrative corporate gig to be the stay-home mom and part-time freelance writer wife of a full-time grad student. On paper, our income last year was $14,000.

So I hear you. But unless you’ve made the “choice” I’d be hard-pressed to agree with you on this one.

Jason June 2, 2008 at 4:04 pm

In my experience, SAHPs (and yes, typically it’s the moms) tend to judge and feel themselves being judged a lot more than the working parents. I wish that parents could talk and learn from each other more openly. It’s unfortunate that you were unfairly judged for your own life decision.

Certainly I hope that people don’t look down on my wife and I because we work full time and pay for a good daycare for our kid. It was our choice, and it’s been (IMO) easier and more beneficial for our family. If there wasn’t a daycare of the same quality as the one she’s at, we wouldn’t have done it. If we had plenty of money and/or no debt, one of us would stay home… whichever one made less money.

SAHPs often complain about how they are “on duty” all the time, and how they deserve so much credit for what they do. I agree that they do work hard, but they also have the ability to be flexible, take part in all the daytime programs that we working parents can’t, etc.

My wife and I work all day AND come home and parent each night. We don’t get babysitters, we don’t have family in the area, so we don’t get any extra time off either.

I wish we had a free year of FMLA, like Andi (apparently from Canada?). I think more parents would feel more comfortable returning to work having had such a long time at home with their baby. As it is now, parents can stay home for a couple weeks, maybe a month or two if they’ve saved up some leave, and then it’s either back to work or quit. Some SAHPs are only at home because it is much more difficult to get back into the workplace after a year (or two, or seven) of being at home. My sister (now SAHM for 7 yrs.) is/was in that position.

andi June 2, 2008 at 8:45 pm

Oh Amy, I’m blushing. Thank you so much – these means so much coming from a writer I admire so much.

And I will add a couple things about the whole “Canada” thing, because yes, I am from there. We do get a year of paid (not full, but 55% which sure is better than nothing) leave. I definitely think it would have been incredibly difficult for me to go back after only a few weeks or months with my baby – after a year, I was ready.

Although I appreciate some of Jason’s points – I still think it’s difficult for most men to really understand the societal pressures that are placed on women in terms of parental obligation. Like I said in my post, if both parents are working, in most cases the assumption is that the mother is more responsible for the child’s care and domestic duties. And if both parents have equally high-paid jobs, and had the “choice” to stay at home, bets are it would be the mom doing the choosing.

In the workplace, mothers are often discriminated against, because it’s assumed they will be taking time off of work when children are sick, etc. I know I am lucky in that I have a fairly equitable relationship and a flexible workplace, but that doesn’t mean I still don’t get tired of, as you say “always being mommy.” I’m sorry, but it’s just not the same for dads. It’s just not.

InTheFastLane June 3, 2008 at 11:05 am

My husband and I work both work in education. We have the same hours. We have the same vacations. And yet as you stated “No one asks my husband why there are no clean socks in the drawer.” No one asks my husband what is for dinner. No one asks my husband to juggle three kids’ after school activities, dr. appointments & social schedules. I am the one the feels this pressure. Is this something we could change? Absolutely, but it would take effort and me letting go and reorganizing the way both parents view their roles. And I think our roles are very much based on our role models and society.

Jonathan June 3, 2008 at 4:57 pm

We are still settling into our decision (or rather – Wendy’s decision) for Wendy to stop work when the children arrived.

It’s been a huge adjustment for her, and it’s still going on. I guess it will never really become “normal” – although family life as we know it has.

We have already talked about her doing something part time – maybe bookkeeping (she’s a chartered accountant) – when the children are older.

amanda June 3, 2008 at 9:21 pm

oh mrs c you really do know how to pick em!! this too is one of my all time favorite posts.

we are so very lucky to have andi in our world!!

nature_mom June 4, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Thanks for leading us to Andi’s post, I probably would have missed it otherwise. And it is definately a hot topic to many of us.